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Rumor: Windows roadmap for 2024

With new leadership at the helm and ex-Windows chief Panos Panay in the rearview mirror, a new Windows roadmap is beginning to take shape under Microsoft’s new Windows & Web Experiences team, which is now leading development on the next major Windows client update, code-named Hudson Valley.

We’ve known for some time that Microsoft is planning to ship a major new release of the Windows platform in 2024 code-named Germanium, which is what Hudson Valley will be based on. So, what’s the low-down on this new Windows roadmap, and what can we expect from the next version of Windows? Here’s everything I know so far.

The new Windows roadmap​

We’ll start with the roadmap itself. Under Panay, the Windows org changed up how it intended to ship new versions of Windows. It decided to return to a traditional three-year release cycle for major versions of the Windows platform, supplementing the annual platform release with smaller feature drops every few months instead, known internally as “Moment” updates.

According to my sources, the new Windows bosses are now returning to an annual release cycle for major versions of the Windows platform, meaning Windows is going back to having just one big feature update a year instead of multiple smaller ones throughout. Microsoft may still use Moment updates sparingly, but they will no longer be the primary delivery vehicle for new features going forward.

These changes are said to take effect after Hudson Valley launches in 2024, so I’m still expecting at least one more Moment update for the current version of Windows 11, which sources say will ship in the February or March time frame early next year.

The roadmap for Hudson Valley is also quite interesting. The update is expected to ship on the Germanium platform release, which is set to reach an RTM milestone in April. However, the Hudson Valley update itself won’t be finalized until August, and won’t begin shipping as an update for existing PCs until the September or October timeframe.

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Probably! On a spare laptop.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
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    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
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    Windows 11 Home
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    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
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    Intel Atom N570
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    2gb
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    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
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    Dismal
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    Firefox
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    Defender
Same here, but with a difference.....
I won't be getting my ISO from MS.

Just like I've gotten NO ISO from MS, since Windows XP.

Hazel, I wish we could have Tea together one day, but, since I live in Florida, and you don't, Tea is quite out of the question.
But if I fine a safe place to download Windows 12 from, I'll share that with you.

TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11/Pro/64
In the past, it takes Microsoft about a year for a new OS for it to become somewhat stable. I would wait until I read reviews about its stability and user interface. I passed on Windows 8 because of its interface.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime X670E-PRO
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    XFX RX 7900XT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32GK850F-B 32 Inch UltraGear™ QHD
    Browser
    Firefox
I was a moderator on the old Windows 8.0 forum, and what a debacle that was!
The spammers hit that forum, by the dozens.
The owners of the forum finally just closed it down.
I never really ran Windows 8.0, but remained on Windows 7,
and, I was SO glad when MS released ver. 8.1, which by all rights should have been named Windows 9.0.
Now, that was a NICE OS. I still have it running on several PC's.
It was the first Windows that I could install on an HD, and then move that HD from PC to PC without it puking.

TM :cool:
 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11/Pro/64
As with all new Windows version, I don't upgrade my main computer immediately. I will first install in on a virtual machine or on another computer I don't care to format if anything goes wrong. After the initial familiarization with the virtual machine or the other computer, I will then install it on my test laptop, if possible (Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, 4GB RAM, SSD). After that and when I am confident enough and have solved the initial issues, if any, I will proceed to clone my Windows 11 SSD of my main PC on a spare SSD and then try to upgrade. So if anything goes wrong, I can just swap SSDs and no harm done.
 

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System One

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    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.556)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1
After 40+ years of installing new OS's, I guess I'm just not that cautious. I have five different HD/SSD's here on this PC, and three of them have different versions of Windows on them. Right now, I'm on the Plain Vanilla Windows 11/Pro/64. A reboot and an F12 takes me to any of the other drives and other OS's.

Every time a new OS hits the streets, the after market programmers grab it up and knock the crap out of it. Then they give it a little customization and say "Here is is Boys!". I'll get it, install it on a separate HD, and give it a work out.
It's like Road Testing a car that's just been customized.

Like, the new Optimum 11, Pro V3, from X-Lite. It's so sweet, I hate to even call it Windows. And, out of all the Windows I've installed and ran, over the years, this one installs the quickest, without a bunch of stupid questions, and runs the fastest. I can start the install, walk out of the room, and in just a few minutes walk back in to see the new Desktop looking back at me. No fuss, no muss, and NO MS!
It will be some time before I can call it my Main OS, but it's getting there.

I'm certainly NOT holding my breath for Windows 12 from MS.

TM :cool:
PS: Windows Optimum V3 is due to soon be upgraded to V5.
 
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    Windows 11/Pro/64
I thought that too!
 

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    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
    CPU
    Intel Atom N570
    Memory
    2gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
So what do you think about this? That it might be early 2025 after Windows 11 24H2 - that it might need extra hardware by means of a neural processing unit (NPU) and therefore need a Core Ultra processor. But then the article says this should be optional but maybe that's guesswork.

 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
    CPU
    Intel Atom N570
    Memory
    2gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Unlike some, who dwell on every jot and tittle from Microsoft, I don't.

When they finally release the next version of Windows, whatever they may call it, the aftermarket boys will get it, strip out all the bad stuff and release it to the world as an OS that will run on anything, anytime, and anywhere. Just like they have already done with Windows 11.
For instance, "Optimum 11 Pro 64, V5" 23H2.
But then, you'd probably not know about that, Eh?
Only people who are more concerned about performance, than Conformance would know about that.
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11/Pro/64

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
    CPU
    Intel Atom N570
    Memory
    2gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Is that legal?!!
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
    CPU
    Intel Atom N570
    Memory
    2gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Hazel, that's it! And, Legal is what ever you make it.
Read that site, and decide what's legal for you.

I don't download things like that to make a profit, but just for my own Hobby use.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11/Pro/64
It would certainly be good for a netbook.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
    CPU
    Intel Atom N570
    Memory
    2gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
Will it activate?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
    CPU
    Intel Atom N570
    Memory
    2gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
I thought that just for fun, I'd boot into Optimum 11 Pro 64 .
Opt 11.jpg
There is only a hint or two that is is not Windows 7, 8.1 or even 10. Showing the seconds on the System Clock is normal for Optimum 11.

Then when I run Winver, I get this:

Version 3085.jpg
After an MS update, that .3085 became .3155.
And, the proper drivers were installed for the GPU.
Optimum 11 now has all the proper drivers for video, sound and LAN.

Cheers Mates!
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11/Pro/64

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