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Your more than welcome.
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You´re welcome.

At least here we have the advtage of magnificent scenery etc

e.g two pics I´ve used as Windows backgrounds :

Ist one magnificent waterfall -- see the size of the "Human" atthe bottom to get an appreciation of the scale of the thing.
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and another one : Nice fiery Volcano :

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As for Energy - we've abundant spare capacity of Gethermal and Hydro -- I'm amazed UK / Norway hasn't thought about a 1600 KM undersea cable -- can't be that difficult these days -- could supply endless renewable energy - no need for Russian Gas etc !!!!

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Yep. I'd bet Iceland is the Geothermal capitol of the world.
If I was northern Europe... I'd be fighting to tap into that. ^^
 

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Maybe tomorrow, maybe not or maybe never :ROFLMAO:
 

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Word has it, rollout starts today at 10:00 AM PST.

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:( ... Well, it didn't happen.


...I guess the April 1st. thing, kind of fell flat. Snap!
 

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:( ... Well, it didn't happen.


...I guess the April 1st. thing, kind of fell flat. Snap!
I was expecting a lot more on this forum
 

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:( ... Well, it didn't happen.


...I guess the April 1st. thing, kind of fell flat. Snap!


Which are you referring to, the Win 12 rollout or your April Fools joke about the rollout? :)
 

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Which are you referring to, the Win 12 rollout or your April Fools joke about the rollout? :)


Hi, buddy.

Apparently, both. :)
 

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Here we are --- "Back to the Future " type logo

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I thought the 12 at the end of windows would be bigger... like they are proud it's windows 12 not little like they are insecure about it.
 

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It'll be changed before it's released:ROFLMAO:
 

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New taskbar, new corners, and... WinNT 10!!!
We called it Windows NT - Windows Neanderthal or Windows No Thanks -- take your pick.
Windows NT was the most miserable and complicated thing ever to call itself an OS - to get even the simplest tasks working needed a Doctorate in Computer Science. For Servers W2K3 Server was so much a vastly superior system I'm surprised so many people hung on to Windows NT -- but the name says it all - Windows Neanderthal - and a lot of business management is still today like that - they just see decent I.T as an unnecessary business overhead -- they don't realize that without it in most cases their entire business is GONE. !!!

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Windows NT was perfect for the time it was used The systems then were run by People who had degrees in computer science, so it was designed to work as much as possible as the old Mainframe systems worked. It also worked very well for real time tasks, the number of industrial automation projects that was controlled by PC's running NT was immense, and those were working well into the 21st Century some I believe still are. systems they As the needs of the users changed at the end of the Nineties so did the OS, Win2K came along which was a lot simpler for the enthusiast market to understand.

We still hear many members amongst all our the forums longing for the days of XP which was basically a version of NT with a bit of W2K and a GUI designed by Disney, (which many pro's switched off and used the NT/W2K one instead), but it sold, to a different audience than the original NT.

Vista was of course the major update that Windows needed, though it was not popular as it was sold on old XP hardware but a few cosmetic changes and a name change to Windows 7, and another star was born
 

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Windows NT was perfect for the time it was used The systems then were run by People who had degrees in computer science, so it was designed to work as much as possible as the old Mainframe systems worked. It also worked very well for real time tasks, the number of industrial automation projects that was controlled by PC's running NT was immense, and those were working well into the 21st Century some I believe still are. systems they As the needs of the users changed at the end of the Nineties so did the OS, Win2K came along which was a lot simpler for the enthusiast market to understand.

We still hear many members amongst all our the forums longing for the days of XP which was basically a version of NT with a bit of W2K and a GUI designed by Disney, (which many pro's switched off and used the NT/W2K one instead), but it sold, to a different audience than the original NT.

Vista was of course the major update that Windows needed, though it was not popular as it was sold on old XP hardware but a few cosmetic changes and a name change to Windows 7, and another star was born
NT was always a more stable platform than Windows 9x. That's why they made XP based on it. XP is still my favorite version of Windows and I loved the GUI. All the UI's since have been boring by comparison. Vista was not good at all and 7 was a lot more than just cosmetic changes. Vista was much slower and cumbersome than both XP and 7. On the same hardware, 7 was much better than Vista. Normally , older hardware does not run as well on the newer OS. Going from Vista to 7 it was exactly the opposite.
 

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NT was always a more stable platform than Windows 9x. That's why they made XP based on it. XP is still my favorite version of Windows and I loved the GUI. All the UI's since have been boring by comparison. Vista was not good at all and 7 was a lot more than just cosmetic changes. Vista was much slower and cumbersome than both XP and 7. On the same hardware, 7 was much better than Vista. Normally , older hardware does not run as well on the newer OS. Going from Vista to 7 it was exactly the opposite.
My favourite OS was actually W23K server which I modded to run as a desktop -- it allowed for > 4GB Ram even though it was a 32 bit OS. The old Luma Black theme was brilliant. I still use it regularly as a VM !! as I run some old Vinyl cutting hardware and software on it - the hardware still working perfectly - I create bespoke vinyls for people as a little sideline !!-- and I also have a Pro minidisc recorder (the one without sony's useless DRM stuff-- the domestic ones were riddled with drm which is what the minidisc never took over from CD's and cassette tapes at the time -- even though you could get high qualit 8 hr recordings on them.

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Vista was made deliberately demanding to force people upgrade their PCs or replace them. Many bought a laptop with Vista and downgraded to XP for much better performance. Windows 7 had similar performance to XP, much faster than Vista, they learned their lesson. Windows 11 similarly tries to make us upgrade our unsupported PCs but thankfully there are workarounds to install it on any 64-bit dual core or better system. They never learn!

PS: Smile! You can patch XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 or 10 32-bit to see up to 128GB RAM like in Windows Server 2003! See this thread: How to patch windows 7, 8, 10 32-bit to see above 4gb ram (new patch) - Windows 10 Help Forums
 
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    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

The-Hive

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Didn't seem to be like that in the UK
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen Core i9 10900K
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 2TB P981A
    D: Samsung 2TB 970 Evo
    E: WD 2TB EXT
    F: WD 2TB EXT
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer AX1650i Wi-Fi Network Adaptor
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
    Tobii Eye Tracker
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3501
    CPU
    11th Gen i-7
    Memory
    16Gb
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    512Gb SSD
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton

barman58

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Vista was a major OS upgrade and it required a significant upgrade in hardware to run correctly, I specified a number of systems for various uses, and these worked extremely well, when specified correctly based on the original specs.

Unfortunately for the home market the Microsoft Sales department caved into the demands of the Major OEM manufacturers.

The OEMs had already pre ordered, and paid for, a large number of XP era components that were insufficient for use with Vista, even in it's lower spec Home versions.

Microsoft then lowered the baseline technical specifications for the required hardware for Vista to meet the level of the hardware that the OEMs had in stock - and so Vista home machines were often close to unusable

I even ran Vista Pro as a server for a commercial Network using XP and Vista workstations and this ran well into the Windows 7 era
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Chillblast to my design
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti - HDMI, DP
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Chillblast Silent Workstation PC Case - Black
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler, Quiet Case fans Fan
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3 + M570 Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
    Other Info
    Also run...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64 HP 15.2"
    Nexus 7 Android tablet [x2]
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview 10.2 Tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Samsung S9 Plus Smartphone
    Samsung Note S20
    Wacom Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom ExpressKey Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad +Logi Mx Master 3
    Keyboard
    Stock Illuminated + Logi - MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021

spapakons

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Athens - Greece
OS
Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.556)
In theory the minimum system requirements to run Vista are the same as Windows 7. At least 1GHz CPU and 1GB RAM for the 32-bit versions. But the same computer running Vista is noticeably slower than running Windows XP or 7. This is immediately obvious when upgrading from Vista to 7. It feels like you have upgraded the CPU or added more RAM. So Microsoft made any Vista computer noticeably slower to force us replace it with a new computer. Of course a new dual core computer would seem a great leap forward compared to a typical Pentium 4 system and we would have the illusion that Vista perform better at the "proper" hardware. This illusion is instantly removed when upgrading to Windows 7 and see a great performance difference. You can install Windows Vista in a virtual machine and then upgrade to Windows 7 to see what I mean. For the test to be realistic don't give more than 2GB RAM to the virtual machine. I would give only 1GB.

At least Windows 11 have the same or better performance than Windows 10. The installation requirements just discourage the average user to use it on unsupported machines. The little more advanced user should have read anywhere online that it is possible to run Windows 11 on unsupported computers with some compromise on security. If he, like most of us, doesn't care about missing these features, hacks setup and uses the latest Windows OS without having to upgrade the hardware. Can it run Windows 8 64-bit? Then it can also run Windows 10 64-bit and Windows 11. Of course there are some exceptions, but not the rule. The rule is that any computer compatible with Windows 8 64-bit can also run Windows 10 64-bit and 11, no matter how low specs. Never forget that. I have installed Windows 11 on an old Pentium 4 64-bit socket 775 computer (Intel 6xx CPU, first Intel 64-bit CPU family), so don't worry. If you have same age or newer computer 99% it can run Windows 11.
 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.556)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1

Dch48

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Upstate NY
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Windows 11 Home
Vista was a major OS upgrade and it required a significant upgrade in hardware to run correctly, I specified a number of systems for various uses, and these worked extremely well, when specified correctly based on the original specs.

Unfortunately for the home market the Microsoft Sales department caved into the demands of the Major OEM manufacturers.

The OEMs had already pre ordered, and paid for, a large number of XP era components that were insufficient for use with Vista, even in it's lower spec Home versions.

Microsoft then lowered the baseline technical specifications for the required hardware for Vista to meet the level of the hardware that the OEMs had in stock - and so Vista home machines were often close to unusable

I even ran Vista Pro as a server for a commercial Network using XP and Vista workstations and this ran well into the Windows 7 era
I disagree that it was a major upgrade. Or even any upgrade at all. It was just a bloated mess of an OS. Windows 7 was the legitimate successor to XP.
"Vista Home machines were often close to unusable". Yes, they were but the same machines saw large improvements in performance if upgraded to Windows 7. I had one here in this house. It was a single core eMachines Intel Celeron desktop that was slower than molasses in January with the Vista it came with. When upgraded to 7, it was still slow but much better than with Vista.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
    Motherboard
    MSI B550-A Pro
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6600XT
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro 24" RG241Y
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080 144hz refresh rate
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 860 QVO 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD
    Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD
    PSU
    LEPA B650 650 watt
    Case
    Enermax Coenus
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster Hyper T4 air
    Keyboard
    CM Storm Devastator
    Mouse
    e-Blue Cobra Jr.
    Internet Speed
    100mbps
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes free
    Other Info
    DVD burner and BluRay burner optical drives

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